tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post114785211653671103..comments2023-06-16T07:31:34.142-05:00Comments on The View from the Hill: "Emerging Leaders or Submerging Servants?"---A ResponseTim Sweatmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12207080258485611356noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1148420094814982462006-05-23T16:34:00.000-05:002006-05-23T16:34:00.000-05:00Tim,In case no one has seen it, Ben has posted a f...Tim,<BR/><BR/>In case no one has seen it, Ben has posted a follow up to his article over on his blog<BR/><BR/>www.benbrammer.blogspot.com<BR/><BR/>I think for the most part he does a pretty good job of bringing clarity to MOST of what he originally wrote. I still find a bit of hypocrisy with his statement about neglecting pastoral duties b/c of blogging since he too has entered the blog world as a pastor. <BR/><BR/>I think the lesson to learn is that people need to choose their words carefully before firing off a public letter that could be perceived as an attack.Jamie Woottenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09387000362763656163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1148401300050981892006-05-23T11:21:00.000-05:002006-05-23T11:21:00.000-05:00Jeff,I have no way of knowing what anyone's motive...Jeff,<BR/><BR/>I have no way of knowing what anyone's motives are. All I can go by is what they say and do. Based on my observations, I don't believe that most bloggers are jockeying for position. I would surmise that some are doing so, but not most. Of course, if I'm wrong about this then that means we have a huge integrity problem.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Jamie,<BR/><BR/>I thought that statement was out of line as well, but I didn't think of how to address it until now. Were the leaders of the Resurgence neglecting <I>their</I> pastoral duties by devoting their time and effort to the Resurgence?<BR/><BR/><BR/>Dorcas,<BR/><BR/>That's one way to deal with the SBC Recycling Program. BTW, is that the approach you use to recruit volunteers to work with the children? :)Tim Sweatmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12207080258485611356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1148390731585295432006-05-23T08:25:00.000-05:002006-05-23T08:25:00.000-05:00Tim,Well said, thank you.cbTim,<BR/><BR/>Well said, thank you.<BR/><BR/>cbCB Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02230652312241919771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1148262854764127452006-05-21T20:54:00.000-05:002006-05-21T20:54:00.000-05:00Tim,Outstanding post! I could not have said what I...Tim,<BR/><BR/>Outstanding post! I could not have said what I feel better than you did. My main concern is to see the right things happen. You articulated my feelings exactly. Keep up the good work, especially your last paragraph.<BR/><BR/>By the way, anyone think about those pesky IMB policies lately. Are the doors closed there? Do we just have to deal with it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1148186601110440492006-05-20T23:43:00.000-05:002006-05-20T23:43:00.000-05:00Jury duty! That's funny. Maybe we should put all ...Jury duty! That's funny. Maybe we should put all the pastor's names in a hat and send out notices each year. <BR/><BR/>Dear Reverend Sweatman:<BR/>This is your notice to report for SBC Leadership duty. Please bring your bible and a yellow legal pad with you to Room A-12 of the convention hall to stand in line to receive your assignment. If you do not arrive on time and attired in business professional garb, the leadership coordinator will send out the intern squad to collect your person and deliver you to Room A-12. Unlike jury duty, there are no exceptions given to SBC leadership duty. If you ever want to preach in your town again, you will show up in Room A-12 at the designated day and time.<BR/><BR/>Sincerely,<BR/>Your friendly administrative staffDorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11516711296615184448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1148165110303002522006-05-20T17:45:00.000-05:002006-05-20T17:45:00.000-05:00Dear Brother Art,Does that mean you won't sign my ...Dear Brother Art,<BR/><BR/>Does that mean you won't sign my laptop at the convention?<BR/><BR/>Love in Christ,<BR/><BR/>JeffJeff Richard Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03733241874625816333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1148047660773408792006-05-19T09:07:00.000-05:002006-05-19T09:07:00.000-05:00Tim, there's a saying they have in Latinamerica, "...Tim, there's a saying they have in Latinamerica, "no tiene pelos en la lengua" meaning "no hairs on the tongue"--you said it straight, loud and clear! If you preach this way too, I would love to hear you preach!J. Guy Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751691713410311094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1148047362054396652006-05-19T09:02:00.000-05:002006-05-19T09:02:00.000-05:00Tim,And you didn't even address the comment Ben ma...Tim,<BR/>And you didn't even address the comment Ben made about how we are neglecting our pastoral duties due to the time we spend blogging. I think that one irritated me the most.Jamie Woottenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09387000362763656163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1147993317660294722006-05-18T18:01:00.000-05:002006-05-18T18:01:00.000-05:00Tim,A comprehensive evaluation, to be sure.Ben acc...Tim,<BR/><BR/>A comprehensive evaluation, to be sure.<BR/><BR/>Ben accuses young leaders and bloggers of seeking positions of power because we criticize the power structure? Isn't it more likely that he is the one seeking the approval of those whose feet he claims we shoud wash? That line is telling, to me.<BR/><BR/>Also, I think that he accuses us of being personality worshipers because of the general support in the blogosphere for Wade. I think that is diercted at him and those who support him specifically.<BR/><BR/>In contrast, have you ever seen the throng of pastors that clamor around Jerry Falwell at the SBC, seeking for him to autograph things - like Bibles, on occasion?art rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00058253532158878707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1147986491761567382006-05-18T16:08:00.000-05:002006-05-18T16:08:00.000-05:00Tim, this was an outstanding article and I really ...Tim, this was an outstanding article and I really appreciated your comments about learning from our elders. <BR/><BR/>Most of the pastors I know in their early twenties or late thirties could care less about denominational life and do not desire any position of leadership. In fact, it is seen as something to be avoided, like jury duty.<BR/><BR/>Brammer has been inhaling too much mold and dust and needs to put his books down and exit the library immediately. His article was either a hit piece for the ruling elite or someone who is clueless, but cannot help sharing his opinion.CWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05330876395340899950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1147984201269508852006-05-18T15:30:00.000-05:002006-05-18T15:30:00.000-05:00Right on, Tim.Now, since I'm a personality seeker ...Right on, Tim.<BR/><BR/>Now, since I'm a personality seeker I'm off to bask in the afterglow of the spiritual giants who walk among us. Maybe I can borrow some tanning lotion from Ben.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01568650603425594448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1147978514045964102006-05-18T13:55:00.000-05:002006-05-18T13:55:00.000-05:00Dear Brother Tim,So, even if most Baptist Bloggers...Dear Brother Tim,<BR/><BR/>So, even if most Baptist Bloggers are NOT jockeying for position, are SOME of us doing so? Are MOST of us doing so a little bit?<BR/><BR/>Love in Christ,<BR/><BR/>JeffJeff Richard Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03733241874625816333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1147962255115926722006-05-18T09:24:00.000-05:002006-05-18T09:24:00.000-05:00Tim,You are right on! Double speak was taught by ...Tim,<BR/><BR/>You are right on! Double speak was taught by a famous person from Arkansas wasn't it? I did not have......Kevin Busseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04348284292255381355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1147961894478688452006-05-18T09:18:00.000-05:002006-05-18T09:18:00.000-05:00Well said, Tim. Good job.Well said, Tim. Good job.steve whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10856625843102774002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19261954.post-1147957585904131572006-05-18T08:06:00.000-05:002006-05-18T08:06:00.000-05:00Tim,Great article once again. I had to laugh at t...Tim,<BR/><BR/>Great article once again. <BR/><BR/>I had to laugh at the concept that we are jockeying for leadership. : )<BR/><BR/>I really was just writing a blog.....Kiki Cherryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12645328643005103103noreply@blogger.com